![]() You have a song called “Air BnB,” and listening to it I can’t tell to what degree you’re criticizing Airbnbs and to what degree you’re celebrating them. And some noise music, but that’s so far underground. Except maybe in hip-hop or some alt-girl bands. I mean, when you think about rock and roll, it was the music of rebelliousness, and where do you hear that in the culture now? I don’t hear it anywhere. Oh, I think it kind of went out with a whimper. Do you think rock is officially dead now? In your memoir you talk about how No Wave, the scene Sonic Youth was part of early on, set out to destroy rock. My sense of home now is, like, wherever my daughter is, or my close friends. I realized I don’t have this sense of home. It’s different than when you move to a new place and you feel like you can reinvent yourself. ![]() When you move back to a place, it’s familiar, but nothing is ever the same. Even the name of the record: No Home Record. Well, most of the songs have something to do with L.A. So I was really happy with that, and I had been thinking about doing a solo record or something. So I went back and I did more vocals and put guitar down, and that became “Murdered Out,” which we just put out on the internet with not much fanfare. And he put down this really funky drum beat and a good bass, and he sent it back to me, and I just thought, Well, this is really trashy. Anyway, he would send me things: “Do you want to sing on this?” I said, “Well, I’ll do it if I can make up my own lyrics.” So I went in and sang, did vocals on this song of his friend Lawrence Rothman’s, and it came out pretty good. It’s just a conventional way of songwriting. Why? Because they’re making the music for you? Then Justin D.M.’ed me and said, “Would you be interested in recording something or doing vocals for something?” I’m just always skeptical of producers, and that way of working is just foreign to me, where you work with a producer and they arrange stuff. ![]() ![]() I was at a restaurant sitting next to him, and our tables were so close that suddenly my friend and I were part of their conversation. I met Justin Raisen accidentally through his brother. Kim Gordon: Well, it almost came about accidentally. ![]()
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